suddenly i'm thinking that tree, they still have the stuff of it in the apollo theater. that's a tree reference. people don't forget that. but i'm back into places, and i think the new, the latest moves, the new thinking in historic preservation is about preserving use. so for instance, i'm really fascinated by -- [inaudible] which fulton street i'm sure either they were british soldiers chasing americans on that day or of americans were running down the street, an amazing place. for decades been considered to be not worth the. in the same decades, hip-hop is invented pretty much. there are so many small businesses that start there. i know a woman who had a store, and she was, -- she was running the wig store, one son was in a school of economics, another son was at williams. she was doing fine. she had and the staff. there was a guy who started a sushi restaurant, and now that whole block is gone because it was as not being of valley. so i think the big thing is that we don't, we don't know how to recognize what is valuable use that add big time value to the city we're